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I Love And Still Wonder

I love Jesus, Mama, Granny, and Pa.

Daughter, Grandson,  Sisters… My Darling Wife who gives her all.

My daddy, and…. a whole lot of cousins I barely ever knew.

I loved music, horses, cooking and dogs.

Cats adopted me, so, I fed their cause,

Actually found myself in love with them, allergies, paws and all.

How awesome they’ve all been…  Why now do I see stained glass

visuals of King David dancing naked with his harp before all the kingdom?..

Yet, only an audience of two?

The “One” he danced for, was all the inspiration he needed to perform,

Though, the one peering from the window above in disdain, saw not the Art at all.

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What On Earth Is This World Coming To?

What is the world coming to? We’ve all heard this question asked rhetorically,

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or in trepidation to recent news briefs containing tragic, or, absurd events in our society. Most of us, in fact, have asked the question, “What is the world coming to”  either in jest or as a humorous; “Matter of fact “, up in arms reprisal,  professing…I don’t have a clue!

As one who believes  God of the Bible is the creator of all things, (and for the most part ), the Holy Bible as His inerrant Word, I rest in personal peace of knowing the answer to this question.

According to my God’s word, the “World” as we now know it is coming to an end.

The word, “World” in the Bible, however, usually refers to the unsaved, or lost sheep. In light of this reality, the world is not coming to an end, but the future of those who choose not to be a child of God, sadly, is not a pretty picture.  Though in my studied opinion of His word, this means either life or death, and not eternal torture, and torment from the loving God who created us all, to begin with. Regardless of what one believes will ultimately happen to the physical world in the future, our larger, more prevalent concern has to be what is taking place in the world around us now, at this precise moment.

Many say there aren’t any places left on earth which have not heard the Gospel of Christ, and therefore, the need for missionary trips is a thing of the past. Some of these same people say there are hardships enough here at home,   (wherever you call home) to attend to.

It is possible that all countries have heard the Gospel, ie (Good News) but the need for Christian missionaries world-wide is not a thing of the past.

People need love. And people need to give love.

When the average American Christian thinks or hears about the persecuted church, their immediate thoughts are of how their peers, and or, the world judges them personally as an individual with the audacity to claim themselves a born again Christian. ( I did say the Average American Christian. Not all! )

Unfortunately, the truth of the matter could not be more alarming when one realizes what is really taking place in other parts of the world.

One of many examples would be North Korea.

Well ?!.  You may say. There aren’t any Christians in North Korea anyway.

Wrong. They are there…  If they haven’t already been tortured to death or rotting away on some freezing cold dirt prison floor, they are still there.

( 17 year old girl executed )

These are people who seek their creator, and savior, from the tyrannical pits of real persecution.  Psalm 107, you may find YOUR SELF somewhere in this scripture passage, I know I have both in reading and personification.

Thankfully, there are secret missionary programs taking place in areas such as these, where missionaries are without a doubt knowingly, and willingly, putting their own lives at risk of death every day.

Of course, the conglomerated global media rarely, if ever, show us what is really taking place in such areas, but, God is at work in many third world countries where people are sadly suffering situations that we as Americans and other western countries have yet to experience. ( At least most of us alive today) there are reliable news sources, however.

 

If we truly realized the God-given privilege to have Bibles on our shelves, out in the open, collecting dust for all who enter our homes to see, including non-Christians, whom, of course, in this country rarely raise an eyebrow to, or notice lying there, I wonder if it would cause us to want to pick it up and actually read it?

If we realized the sheer agony being inflicted on Innocent people, in some of these places?  Would we at least read a little from the pages of what many of them are voluntarily dying to read?   ( Naked Truth ) 

 

Suffice it to say, rarely, on invitation would the most outspoken Atheistic God hater take notice of, or offense to a family heirloom, of what they presume, sadly correct in many cases, an ornamental Bible laying on the table of American homes today.

This is partly due to the Bible being a part of the American culture so long, and all too often, “now-days“, having become nothing more than a generational diary, or a hand me down family who’s who?, from grandma, or mom, without any spiritual significance of who “Father ” is in regard to the history of the country and the world.

I ask you now to take a moment and think of yourselves being in the worst situation you can imagine. For instance, if you were put in prison, ( for whatever reason) where, being alienated, frightened, and lonely most of the time, you began to ask, “what is truth”?  Do you think there’s even the slightest possibility you would ask for a Bible to read?

Another sad reality is, even in America, a country built on the principles of the Bible, the rights of a prisoner to ask for a Holy Bible are taken away daily.

What if you lost a loved one? The loved one you can’t conceive of living without. Would you possibly seek answers from the Bible? (the best-selling book in the history of the world) And if you did entertain the possibility, and reached for it to read, and were told…NO!!! you can’t have it, what lengths do you think you would go to acquire one? Considering even slightly, that within one book, which many proclaim  “a love letter from God” may rest your only hope for coping, and getting through bereavement of your loss, wouldn’t you at least expect the right to read it?

With this right quickly becoming a thing of the past in America’s penal systems,  (a place the principles of such a book are so needed as much if not more than anywhere) what on earth is this world coming to? And if that right is taken away there? Where, and what right will be taken away next? And from whom? While we are pondering that question, we should probably ask ourselves why this whole thing is taking place. Why the “World”  is so intent on closing the cover of the best-selling book of all times, yet, not restricting anyone from reading the Eckhart Tolle’s, and other humanistic gurus of today’s societies books. Or the Qur’an?  Why are certain cities in America honoring Sharia Law, by allowing one religion (another way home) have three prayer time breaks throughout the day in the workplace, and not allowing a prisoner to have a bible? Okay, that’s a rabbit hole for another Alice, on another day.

 

What if you became stranded on a deserted Island alone? An Island where noises from the dark of night kept you awake, frightened, not knowing what may happen next. You probably would be on edge constantly. You may even  find yourself asking..”What Is Truth”? Or, at least seeking to know if something or someone out there really cares. Wouldn’t you want the consolation of Gods word? Or even a book largely presumed as being the word of God…thereby, at least having something to base a possibility to draw your own conclusions on the matter from?

Now, think about living in a country, secluded from the mainstream of religion, news, or outside contact, and meeting Jesus in your heart. ( I know for many readers this last part is a stretch from the realm of your wildest dreams and possibilities, at least, for the moment )  You would want to learn and know more and more about Him. Would you not?  You would want a Bible!

Knowing it could mean imprisonment, and in many cases  imprisonment of three generations of their immediate family members, loss of limbs, or death upon being found in possession of, or reading a Bible on any given day in countries like India, North Korea, and even parts of the Philippines, the “Persecuted Church” is still seeking to read Gods word.

I don’t know about you, but, when this cold hard truth hit me I could not let my Bible stay dormant, covered in shelf dust for another moment without feeling guilty for not at least exercising my right to read it.  While helping others to have the right to see what God says He wrote and sent for them would be a greater thing to do, where would we begin knowing how to help, if not from the book they are so willingly giving up every other right they have, including life to read.

 

Yes, there are people right here in America who need our love and help, and if we are giving it, then we can maybe find a little peace in our soul for being the arms and the legs of Jesus to a hurting world. (Or for just doing what is right)

 

So, whether you personally accept the Bible as Gods word or not…

Just for a moment, I ask that we all pray,..or put our thoughts on those people in countries, and right here at home, who don’t even have the right to choose to read one, and those who choose to read it at the risk of their own lives. Those reaching for a Bible because they have lost a loved one, and most of all, those who are losing loved ones, because they are reaching for a Bible!  Pray for them… ( if we are the body )

 

 As for the question, “What on earth is this world coming to”…I guess the answer rest on who we choose to follow, or allow to take our rights away.

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“Sons of Enoch” chapter 23

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“City of Enoch”
In the last chapter, we left off  looking for the river, Pison, the river in which the Bible says encompasses the whole land of  Havila, where there is gold.  The most obvious thing for us to do therefore, would be to look  for where the land of  Havila was located. If  you are like me,  however,  and have searched through dozens of documented studies, professions, guesses and possibilities as to where the land of  Havila was located, you may throw your hands in the air and say…yeah, fat chance of that.  Well, I admit that was my initial response anyway.  Nonetheless, though it may still call for some speculation, I believe that you will have to agree with me after I point out what I have found on the matter, that Havila, was right there under our noses all along. At least, if  in fact the Holy Bible is one of the places  you were looking while you searched through countless hypotheses, theories, maps, and of course, the occasional “Ancient Alien” paper chase flight to planet  X.  Yeah, that does seem to be one of the more overly published areas of  interest on the subject of who may have built the great Pyramid of  Giza.  Not that I totally discount the possibility of  a 12th  planet out there somewhere, or deny that there are some intriguing works of ancient art  found on the walls of many caves, mountain tops and deserted islands. It’s  just that I  have found much more concrete evidences aligning with what the Word of God has said on the subject of  who created me, than  I  have seen in any of the theories of  ancient  Nibirbian  space  pilots, coming to alter the DNA of  Neanderthal  for the purpose of creating  a work force to harvest the abundant surplus of  gold here on planet earth.

Okay,  I  apologize.  Once again I  have allowed my frustrations of  being side tracked from my  research  by some crazy alien astronaut

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story to keep me from focusing on the subject at hand. And  I apologize again. But, you know those stories are a little captivating once you begin to read  them,  and …wow,  I  wonder how they were able to find a bird with a head as big as a human to create those ..?Oh, sorry,  there I go again… so…where was  I…? Oh yeah, harvesting gold…

Genesis 2:¹¹

The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

Where could the land of Havila be…? And the river Pison, wow, I’m off track here.

“Sons of Enoch”chapter 22

“City of Enoch”

As long as there have been inquiring minds about the validity, and location of  the Garden of Eden, which the writer of the book of Genesis speaks of, there have been seekers of the river Pison, (Pee-Shone), as well as the elusive river  Gehon, ( Ghee-Khone). Both lost in antiquity to us today. Or, at least as far as the Biblical  names pertaining to the two rivers related to the two we do still know the names and locations of anyway, the Heddekel,    (Tigris in Greek,) and the Euphrates. Many attribute the Pison river to the Phasis, which was looked upon as a (god-river ) in Greek Mythology, which, we will not get into at this time. The Phasis’s head waters came from atop the Caucasus mountains, and meandered themselves through the lush foliage of that range through Colchis, and into the Black Sea. 

The river is still there today, however, it is known as the Rioni river. I only mention this particular river in detail, as it could quite possibly resurface within our research at another time based on a theory that was mentioned in this study back  in Chapter 2. That  particular theory, or hypotheses,  is one that proposes the cradle of civilization as possibly being,  not in  Turkey, Africa, or even Mesopotamia, but, in the Kaukasos Mountains. (Caucasas)  NOTE to readers; I personally found no racially motivated purpose, or influences within the study, and recommend it  for review. Reference:

A book published in part,  from 1923-1927,  entitled:   ” The Deluged Civilization of the Caucasus Isthmus” by Reginald Aubrey Fessenden

The allegorical significances within the Genesis original language, and symbolism’s, as a preliminary view of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, though, I will not veer off course of this study to elucidate as the words and meanings speak for themselves anyway, are unmistakably spelled out to those who are familiar with the Gospel story. 

Here, on the other hand, we find ourselves looking for clues that may have been given to us in just the few verses of  Genesis to where we might find, Paradise, which, of course could, if the river, and land masses in the Mesopotamia area are the same today, as back then lead us to the first city ever built, the City of Enoch. (According to the Canonical Genesis version anyway, as Josephus expounds from the Holy Scripts taken from the 70 A.D. 2nd Temple that ( Nod ) was the first city built by Cain, and Enoch was the second city built in honor of his son ) Therefore, we will begin with the first  clue found in Genesis 2.

Genesis 2:11
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

As we have already pointed out, there are many existing rivers, with modern names that incalculable hoards of  historians through-out time have pointed to and claimed; (This is the Pison)!!) Of course, then I suppose after all is said and done throughout the extent of this study, we, or,  at least I, will probably be no different. Still, unsatisfied with any of the many hypotheses, and designated studies  I have come across as of yet in my search as to where the elusive river of Pison just may be, I must leave my own signature as my claim to famed mark on History, after all, Everyone is entitled to my opinion!!!   

  The following is a list of only a few details, and clues that I have come across in my search for the River Pison.

#1 The name Pison in the original language:  (from Net Bible)  Strongs #06376: Nwvyp Piyshown   =  Increase #2 Many Bible interpretations list it as the: Pishon, = Changing at the mouth, or wide spread. #3 Other versions relate the name Pishon, to springing forward, spread about...etc ( Swamp Maybe ?)

Well, those really could describe pretty much any river, sleuth, swamp, or stream anywhere in the World practically, therefore, I digress. What seems more important, and more likely to locate with any possible chance of  accuracy might rather be the land of Hevila, the place that the Bible says that the river encompassed, and had lots of gold. In fact, the next verse in Genesis after Genesis 2:11, also adds that the gold found there was a very high quality gold. Not only, but,  it also gives us a few clues as to what other precious commodities could be found  in Hevila.

Genesis 2:12

And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

“Sons of Enoch” chapter 21

“City of Enoch”

We will begin our search for the ancient city of Enoch, by first pinpointing  the most reasonably accepted location of the Garden of Eden, based on the evidences that we have,  starting with the Genesis 2 account.  The Genesis rendering of the location goes as follows:

Genesis 2:8

And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.    ⁹And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.    ¹⁰And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.  ¹¹The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; ¹²And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.  ¹³And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. ¹⁴And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

If  you will notice,  I have raised certain words in bold print within the foregoing Genesis passage. The reason of my highlighting those words is to point out that the Genesis writer called these  10 places,  or at least those with proper noun assignments,  by their   post-diluvian titles.   In other words,  regardless of  who we  attribute the writing of the book of Genesis to, whether it be Moses, or whomever, we surely know that the book was written after the flood,  and therefore, those places  would bare the names in which the Author was familiar with during his life time.  This is an important bit of information for us to make note of  in our study,  as  you  soon will see.   As  I  pointed out earlier,  the writer of  Genesis went to great lengths to show definitive landmarks, and locations,  clearly expecting his readers to recognize, and identify with the locations based on  his descriptions.  That being said, we will now go back into the Bible and see what,   if  any possible  clues it may offer as to where Eden was located.

Ezekiel 27:23
Haran, and Canneh, and Eden, the merchants of Sheba, , and  Asshur and Chilmad, were thy merchants.

Here we see that Ezekial refers to Eden as being an actual area , or  town, existing during his time, while delivering a message from God , and pointing out some of the merchants that traded with the great city of  Tyre.  All of which, run in sequence within the verse, just as their geographical locations would be seen on a map, or an aerial view ( as our study will show) of  Southern Babylonia.   Hence, we will take a closer look now at that localized area, the  names,  and explore the modern day excavations and archeological findings,  to see if a picture isn’t  after all,  still worth a thousand words.  But, first let me point out that Babylonia was located  in the area later  known as Mesopotamia, which is Greek for:  (Between the two Rivers) The map seen here can be viewed in more detail, along with other detailed information, and links @  BIBLE HISTORY.COM What we see on this map of the ancient Babylonia area aligns the two ( Presently  named and identified today,)  rivers described in the book of Genesis account almost as precisely  as one could ask  for.  Undoubtedly,   it also  shows us that the trade rout  along those rivers, especially when considering that most of the earths population, in those days were located within the same general area, was the most efficient possible scenario for it’s time,  and would even be unto this present day.  The next map that we see  shows more of the then (Genesis Writers) names of the towns, as well as what they were called  in a much later time in history, ie; (Assher/Assyria,)  by the time of the fall of  Samaria,  ( Israel, )  to the Assyrians,   in 722 B.C.  The red line in the map shows the trail that the deported Israelites would have been marched off  from Samaria into Assyria, and the Median provinces.  I only added this map to help us to see the changes and to stay on track with the  two named rivers in the Genesis 2 account, of the Euphrates, and the Tigris,  ( Hiddekel.)   In our continued  search, however,  I will  turn your attention, and mine, to the not so spelled out, nor  easily authenticated names, and locations of the other two rivers, beginning with the  first one in which the Genesis writer labels as the “Pison“. (Strongs #06376>Pee-Shone) As one  attempts to locate, or equate this river to another known river of the more modern times, (as many have attributed it to dozens) they will soon realize that it is not an easy task to say the least. One could rely on the countless geographical studies, maps, outlines and reviews of the equally innumerable experts, geologist, and Bible land explorers from the past to determine which, if any of the many rivers in the  ocean of possibilities could be the river Pison. However, in doing so, one will succumb to the realization, that in the end of all the reading, mapping, googeling, study and gasps,   they will still have to either rely on eenie meanie, miney mo, or the casting of  lots to choose one.  Other than praying for divine revelation into the matter, in which,  I  have certainly done,  I have decided to go with a more personal, technique, or at least, a personal study rather than to rely on someone else’s predetermined conclusion in the matter, and that technique is one of deductive reasoning based on the clues that we are given, beginning in the beginning of it all…the Genesis account.

Genesis 2:11
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

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“Sons of Enoch” Chapter 20

” City of Enoch “

As you may recall from the previous  chapter, the city of Enoch spoken of here, was according to the book of Genesis, the first city ever built on earth.   According to the scriptures,  Cain built this city  and  named  it  Enoch,  in honor of his son, who was also  named Enoch. This  Enoch, However,  as we stipulated in an earlier chapter was not the same Enoch which the Genesis account tells us walked with God, and was taken into heaven. Here we will show where we believe the first city was  located,  based on Biblical information,  geographical, and archeological reasoning, as well as information found on tablets of  Sumerian cuneiform languages and lore.

"Adam and Eve Expelled From Paradise"

Mesopotamia writing in cuneiform

For centuries secular,  and religious,  philosophers, both scientific and theological, have debated the validity of the Genesis writer’s depiction of the Garden of  Eden, and the birth place of civilization. The allegorical significances of the stories throughout the book of Genesis, as well as the Bible itself, are undeniable to say the least. Today, however, with the unearthing of archeological evidences, languages, and ancient cities throughout the regions where the Bible tells us all of this took place circa 5000 years ago,  many of the most skeptical of  historical thinkers astonishingly admit an undeniable realization, that at least some historical significance and validity lies within the Biblical  account of  the birthplace of  humankind.  I feel it is important to point out that the writer of Genesis definitely put forth much effort in his writings, to descriptively locate for the reader,  many detailed  geographical points of references, and landmarks. These places of reference are with us yet today, and for that reason alone, I feel that there was an absolute , definitive and historical purpose in the mind of the writer of Genesis.  Allegories, and fairy tales rarely use actual geographical locations, let alone give such a detailed and  traceable layout for the readers, either presently alive,  or to possibly exist thousands of years later. Albeit, there are still at least two views of what the writings are all about, and the one of the more liberal acceptance would be of just a location  where a mythical tale unfolds.   Nonetheless, the reality that the actual location existed,  and does still today,  has become more and more difficult for anyone to ignore or contradict.  The ensuing study therefore, will be offered to the reader with the authors embracing  of the Genesis account at  face value,  and as a literal,  and historical narrative.  After all,  if it was good enough for the writers of the New Testament, and Jesus himself  to validate for us as an actual historical account, then it is good enough for me.  I base  this  belief not only by faith,  but also on  much study into the validity and historical evidence of  the existence of Yeshua,  (Jesus, ) and his followers.

“Sons of Enoch” chapter 9

Keeping the subject matter of  the previous chapter in mind, I will begin by expounding on some of  its  content as well as examining some different theories pertaining to the “Sons of God “.  First of all, there are three majorly accepted views of who the Bible is speaking of when it  states:  the “Sons of  God” in Genesis 6,  where we see :   Genesis  6: ⁴ There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The first theory, or belief that we will take a look at is the most widely accepted among  the more conservative scholars, and conservatively speaking, is probably the easiest to accept. This belief  holds that the Sons of God were the Sons of Seth, thought to be the righteous of  God, who intermarried with the wicked Daughters of  Cain, creating a super-human race.  Those who oppose this theory, or at least many who do,  say that it is based on the assumption that Seth’s sons were the Sons of God,  as the Bible never states that they were. Those who make this claim also point out that the Bible only has this to say about Seth’s first son, Enos, ( Which stands for “Frail”, or “Mortal “)                   

   Genesis 4:26
And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. It is also a part of their argument that there is more than one interpretation  of the last part of this verse, one being :   Then began men to call their gods, ( idols, ) by the name of  Jehovah.

They also pose the question;  If this interpretation actually meant that this was the first time people began to call upon the Lord, then who did Seth, and Adam call to. Which, I will admit raises a rather strong argument. I was able to find one instance which took place after the flood, where God was angered by the Israelites calling Baal, by His name:  Or,  was probably saying, “Stop calling Baal, God” ?  

Hosea 2:16
And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

However, if we look in the 3rd Chapter of the Book of Luke, in the lineage of Jesus, we do find this:   Luke 3:²³ And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, ²⁴Which was the son of —- ^{and  so on until-—-38}Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.—

Still, those opposed to the theory that the “Sons of God” were the sons of Seth, who married with the daughters of Cain, also claim that the sons of  Seth were not shown to be more righteous than any of the other people on earth, and that the Bible says that God destroyed all mankind except for Noah and his family, who were the only righteous people found on the earth.  In light of the Luke 3, lineage of Joseph, and the fact that Seth was long since passed away, as well as his immediate family of sons, and that Noah was a son of Seth, respectively, I can not dismiss the possibility that

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the Bible, when used as the only source, could have been speaking of the sons of Seth in the passage referring to the “Sons of God”. As I have mentioned in an earlier chapter, depending on which Bible Manuscript one uses, Methuselah,  Noah’s Grandfather is said to have either lived till the same year that the flood came, or, 14 years after the flood.   Fourteen years after the flood According to the Vaticanus Septuagint.

Nevertheless, there is still one problem in the way of  accepting the theory that the Bible was speaking of the “Sons of Seth”  in   Genesis 6:2-4, and that being the Hebrew wording used for “Sons of God”. Throughout the old testament the   wording (benei ha-elohim ) is used  a total of 5 times, and here are the other 4 in  sequence.  Daniel 3:25  ²⁵ “Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”^{[a]   ( Note that  the New King James  version has a click-able  footnote … which gives the more accurate, most recently translated meaning for the designation,” Son of God” )}

This interpretation is also found in most newer versions of the Bible, and simply states: ( son of  the gods )

In the Daniel passage, this would definitely seem more accurate, as Nebuchadnezzar was not yet familiar with the Hebrew religion and it’s entities .  Not to mention that as far as we know from what the Bible out right tells us, Jesus was the only “Begotten” son of God, and not until He was born in the little town of Bethlehem was God incarnate through Christ to live among people on earth, something most of Jewry still haven’t grasped from the scriptures,  let alone   Nebuchadnezzar. He certainly  could not have envisioned what “THE SON OF GOD” (JESUS ) would look like 500 years before Jesus was born, but would most likely have been referring to something that the “Babylonian” religion would have been familiar with. ( Whether real or not,)   It may be important to point out here,   (benei ha-elohim ) in the Old Testament in at least all but the possible verse in question refers to Angels, whether good or bad.

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the ( sons of God ) came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. If it wasn’t clear in this verse that “Presenting themselves before the Lord”  meant literally in Heaven,  the next verse seems to answer that question soundly enough.

Job 1:7
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou?Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

We would be hard pressed to claim that the “Sons of God” spoken of in the previous two passages  were “Not” Angelic beings.

But, even once more in the book of Job we see the same wording;  and in the Hebrew it is once again : ( benei ha-elohim)

Job 2:1 New King James Version
[ Satan Attacks Job’s Health ] Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

In the final usage of the designation: (Sons of God/benei ha-elohim ) in the Old Testament, there is no doubt as to whom the scriptures were referring to, as man had not yet been created.

In Job 38:4, God asked Job, where were thou when I laid the foundation of the earth…and Job 38:7 reads as follows:

1. Job 38:7
   When the morning stars sang together, and all the  sons of God shouted for joy?
   Job 38:6-8 (in Context) Job 38 (Whole Chapter)